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  •  Tue, May 13 2008, 3:53 PM 1220 in reply to 1185

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Actually it's oil.

     


    "And it's legs to walk and thoughts to fly" Townes
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 8:38 AM 1550 in reply to 1220

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Just a final note on the use of Galway girl for the Magners Ad, I think  it's very sad that  a great  song will forever be  associated  with pissed  up people stumbling out of pubs and clubs, fighting, throwing up everywhere, collapsing and then abusing hospital staff when they come round in casualty. Very far removed from the bloody nonsense that the ad portrays of people having a few sips of the said brew, picking up their instruments and making beautiful music.   

    I try to keep the man comfortable by purchasing everything he's recorded. I bought the slightly disappointing Live from Austin TX and I'll probably buy the DVD too. I don't think the ad will have people rushing to buy his music, even sadder is that it'll probably become a Karaoke favorite. 

    I'm amazed  that only one person actually agrees with me about this. I love the man's music, but it's the man's lyrics that make the songs even more important and  I suppose that's where I find it hard to understand the reasons for allowing big business to use his music. His songs have to me always been about injustice, the working man, the unions and how business colludes with governments to shaft us.

     We all need hero's, what would Woody have  done?

    The irony of it is that if Steve Earle hadn't got strung out on drink and drugs for so long he would have been bigger than Bruce Springsteen and wouldn't need to get money from adverts. It might also have stopped Garth Brooks from being country musics biggest star.

    I'm probably gonna piss quite a few people of but I don't care, I feel quite strongly about it. Waitrose have started to use Canned Heat to advertise their services, maybe their market research have shown that many ex  hippies  like to pay more for their groceries. 

         


    "And it's legs to walk and thoughts to fly" Townes
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 11:07 AM 1555 in reply to 1550

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Kevin:

    Just a final note on the use of Galway girl for the Magners Ad, I think  it's very sad that  a great  song will forever be  associated  with pissed  up people stumbling out of pubs and clubs, fighting, throwing up everywhere, collapsing and then abusing hospital staff when they come round in casualty. Very far removed from the bloody nonsense that the ad portrays of people having a few sips of the said brew, picking up their instruments and making beautiful music.   

    I try to keep the man comfortable by purchasing everything he's recorded. I bought the slightly disappointing Live from Austin TX and I'll probably buy the DVD too. I don't think the ad will have people rushing to buy his music, even sadder is that it'll probably become a Karaoke favorite. 

    I'm amazed  that only one person actually agrees with me about this. I love the man's music, but it's the man's lyrics that make the songs even more important and  I suppose that's where I find it hard to understand the reasons for allowing big business to use his music. His songs have to me always been about injustice, the working man, the unions and how business colludes with governments to shaft us.

     We all need hero's, what would Woody have  done?

    The irony of it is that if Steve Earle hadn't got strung out on drink and drugs for so long he would have been bigger than Bruce Springsteen and wouldn't need to get money from adverts. It might also have stopped Garth Brooks from being country musics biggest star.

    I'm probably gonna piss quite a few people of but I don't care, I feel quite strongly about it. Waitrose have started to use Canned Heat to advertise their services, maybe their market research have shown that many ex  hippies  like to pay more for their groceries. 

         

    Kevin, hi!

    First of all, don't feel let down that nobody (me being the exception) agrees with you. I stopped caring what people thought years ago. You find a moral that is working for you, and then you stick to it. I also agree (for the most part) with what you have written above. The legendary Minor Threat refused to participate in Rolling Stone unless they removed all the alcohol & cigarette ads, obviously Rolling Stone didn't do that, so there were no interviews with the mighty 'Threat. Trent Reznor refused to play the MTV music video awards, because they did not allow him to use a dancing George Bush as a backdrop - these are just two examples of heroes, to me at least. Steve Earle is also my hero - we may not agree on the use of his music in ads, but still, it does not diminish his work (at least not to me) as a protester and social conscience. He does use his stance as a public figure to try and make a difference, and that's more than you can say about most artists these days. And, most importantly - it is after all his choice.

    Finally, it is my firm belief that we should not put too much trust into what other people do (especially musicians and/or artists). It is way more effective to get organized yourself.

    Now, I have a meeting with a barbell and some weights!
     


    kmb117:
    We don't have a cure for cancer but we've got 16 million different versions of the Lord of the Rings. What. The. Fuck.
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 2:17 PM 1560 in reply to 1555

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    I haven't lost my faith in Steve Earle, who else could fill that gap. Your right about morals and adhering to them, I tend to see things through my own set of principles  and wonder why people don't see it the same way,  People take different things from Mr. Earle than I seem to.

     

     

    But it's good to meet  a kindred spirit .

    What else does he endorse, just out of interest? Epiphone guitars? 


    "And it's legs to walk and thoughts to fly" Townes
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 3:54 PM 1561 in reply to 1560

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Actually, I think he stopped using Gibson guitars (which own Epiphone), Steve got mad at them for - ummm... well it was something about putting all the smaller guitar shops out of business. Somebody might provide you with a proper link/info on this. As to what guitars he currently uses, that might be something for the upcoming Q&A if it happens.
    kmb117:
    We don't have a cure for cancer but we've got 16 million different versions of the Lord of the Rings. What. The. Fuck.
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 4:01 PM 1562 in reply to 1561

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    That's interesting to know.

    "And it's legs to walk and thoughts to fly" Townes
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 4:15 PM 1563 in reply to 1561

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert & Steve Earle guitars

    According to the "other" SE website, Steve is endorsing Martin guitars and apparently there is a Steve Earle model available. If you go to www.steveearle.net and click on the articles link on the left side of the page, then go to the May 23 Music Radar article you can read about it.
    "I got me a fearless heart"
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 5:11 PM 1564 in reply to 1563

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert & Steve Earle guitars

    indygochild:
    According to the "other" SE website, Steve is endorsing Martin guitars and apparently there is a Steve Earle model available. If you go to www.steveearle.net and click on the articles link on the left side of the page, then go to the May 23 Music Radar article you can read about it.

     Thanks for the heads up. A quick Google search turned up this link, with a photo of the guitar:

     http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/004425.html

    Here's another with a pic of Steve and the guitar:

     http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/004424.html 

    tung

     


    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 5:36 PM 1565 in reply to 1564

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert & Steve Earle guitars

    Sounds snobish Stick out tongue I like black guitars Big Smile
    And the picture looks photoshopped. Stick out tongue But his visit to the guitar shop is a part of the WSS DVD. :-)

  •  Sun, May 25 2008, 11:13 PM 1571 in reply to 1550

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    I've always felt that selling a song just to hock a product was selling out. Now I think it's a distasteful bit of business that I have to turn a blind eye too because it seems like EVERYONE does it. Still doesn't make it right.

    "Think for yourself. Question authority." - Timothy Leary
  •  Mon, May 26 2008, 5:45 AM 1577 in reply to 1564

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert & Steve Earle guitars

    Nice guitar, bit more class than an Epiphone.

    "And it's legs to walk and thoughts to fly" Townes
  •  Mon, May 26 2008, 5:48 AM 1578 in reply to 1571

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Some artists who DON'T (correct me if I'm wrong): Bruce Springsteen, The Pogues, Tom Waits, Nine Inch Nails, Metallica (didn't see that one coming, did ya!), Neil Young, Nick Cave ...among others. Not all hope is lost!
    kmb117:
    We don't have a cure for cancer but we've got 16 million different versions of the Lord of the Rings. What. The. Fuck.
  •  Mon, May 26 2008, 5:55 AM 1579 in reply to 1577

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert & Steve Earle guitars

    Kevin:
    Nice guitar, bit more class than an Epiphone.

    Undoubtedly, yes. But I have played Epiphones, and I think they are fine instruments. 


    kmb117:
    We don't have a cure for cancer but we've got 16 million different versions of the Lord of the Rings. What. The. Fuck.
  •  Mon, May 26 2008, 10:31 AM 1587 in reply to 1578

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    Bloodaxe:
    Some artists who DON'T (correct me if I'm wrong): Bruce Springsteen, The Pogues, Tom Waits, Nine Inch Nails, Metallica (didn't see that one coming, did ya!), Neil Young, Nick Cave ...among others. Not all hope is lost!

    You can add my favorite band, Tool, to that list. 


    "Think for yourself. Question authority." - Timothy Leary
  •  Mon, May 26 2008, 1:44 PM 1588 in reply to 1587

    Re: Magners/Bulmers advert

    kmb117:

    Bloodaxe:
    Some artists who DON'T (correct me if I'm wrong): Bruce Springsteen, The Pogues, Tom Waits, Nine Inch Nails, Metallica (didn't see that one coming, did ya!), Neil Young, Nick Cave ...among others. Not all hope is lost!

    You can add my favorite band, Tool, to that list. 

    Yes, for fuck's sake... how could I forget the mighty TOOL!?! I still, after about 500 listening sessions, discover new things when I crank 10,000 days. Absolutely amazing stuff.


    kmb117:
    We don't have a cure for cancer but we've got 16 million different versions of the Lord of the Rings. What. The. Fuck.
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